Using Zango (& other scum) to steal Ccbill join form traffic - BlackHatCrew

pussyluver · 10-07-2007, 01:37 AM

If you missed this from TOB, it's worth a quick read.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=774597&page=1

The hijack of joins and traffic has been goin on for a long while, just seems to be getting totally out of control. There is no simple solution that I know of.

Was working on twistys promotion when I took a break and dropped into GFY to see shaps rant. Guess not all that much of a coincidence.

poto · 10-07-2007, 01:46 AM

yep, Shap posted the same thread on JBM

http://justblowme.com/showthread.php?t=80371

personally, I'd rather just read the one at JBM since that's where the program owners are...

I thought Arlo's replies were very telling... I won't be promoting Quickbuck anytime soon... don't care if they do have pixel tracking... I know they have their own install base... there is more than one way to shave...

pussyluver · 10-07-2007, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by porcypig

Spyware is killing this industry. Please READ the text below carefully and please watch the movie we have made and make sure you check out the links below was well!!!

That time has come where we MUST unite and take down, destroy, stop those who are killing our industry as we know it.

Its no secret that the past few months had been horrible to say the least, all our hard work has been stolen right from under our noses. Some people know what's going on, some do not. For those who do not, its time to make them aware......

Was part of first post at: http://www.gfy.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=12188564

In the thread sites are named along with affiliate account numbers.... Thought the post was well put.

I'll ck out the JBM post by shap, maybe some different or more info...

pussyluver · 10-07-2007, 02:01 AM

Looks like at least a handful will be off to their lawyers. The JBM version is a better read. Shorter too.

poto · 10-07-2007, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver

Was part of first post at: http://www.gfy.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=12188564

In the thread sites are named along with affiliate account numbers.... Thought the post was well put.

I'll ck out the JBM post by shap, maybe some different or more info...

I've actually read that post before...

and I agree it is a problem...

at least for affiliates... program owners should actually benefit from it somewhat... less affiliates they have to pay...

poto · 10-07-2007, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver

Looks like at least a handful will be off to their lawyers. The JBM version is a better read. Shorter too.

yep... I love JBM... very few surfers and more real biz talk there...

you don't see the owners much on GFY... and if you do it's buried by hundreds of bullshit posts by surfers, lol...

pussyluver · 10-07-2007, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poto

program owners should actually benefit from it somewhat... less affiliates they have to pay...

Understatement? Ban the affiliate and keep all the $. Or the program owner has multiple affiliate accounts set up for his own use. Just ban the account and move on to the next.

Maybe I should be more trusting??

poto · 10-07-2007, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Understatement? Ban the affiliate and keep all the $. Or the program owner has multiple affiliate accounts set up for his own use. Just ban the account and move on to the next.

Maybe I should be more trusting??

they pull that shit all the time...

when Smoking Dawn outed SexBankRoll for buying Zango traffic on AI their rep LIED about it and said it was an affiliate account... he even said they banned that affiliate... of course it was easy to tell he was liar because the Zango traffic was being sent to sbrjmp.com which is a domain owned by SexBankRoll... it's where they host their exits... they even host their rep's board sig on that domain...

you'd think if a program is going to buy spyware traffic and lie about it they'd at least have enough sense to hide it a bit better...

pussyluver · 10-08-2007, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by poto

they pull that shit all the time...

when Smoking Dawn outed SexBankRoll for buying Zango traffic on AI their rep LIED about it and said it was an affiliate account... he even said they banned that affiliate... of course it was easy to tell he was liar because the Zango traffic was being sent to sbrjmp.com which is a domain owned by SexBankRoll... it's where they host their exits... they even host their rep's board sig on that domain...

you'd think if a program is going to buy spyware traffic and lie about it they'd at least have enough sense to hide it a bit better...

we don't shave or cheat...... since 19.......

poto · 10-08-2007, 05:49 AM

holy shit... the Zango drama on JBM just got kicked up a notch...

well worth a read... hope they don't delete the threads...

http://justblowme.com/showthread.php?t=80437
http://justblowme.com/showthread.php?t=80441

pussyluver · 10-08-2007, 06:15 PM

Things get a little heated over there fo sure.

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To reduce the number of infected surfers on your own site put this in your .htaccess:
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} zango|seekmo|hotbar|hbtools [NC]
RewriteRule ^$ http://www.yourwarningpage.com/warning/index.html [R]
or instead of your own warning-page add this:
http://www.adwaresucks.com/zango/
The more sites that do this the better it is as hopefully the infected surfers will learn something.
--
The code has been posted in a number of places. This came from the webmaster at thunder-ball.net.

Not the answer all, but prolly helps some.

poto · 10-09-2007, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver

Things get a little heated over there fo sure.

they sure did... seems to have died down now tho...

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver

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To reduce the number of infected surfers on your own site put this in your .htaccess:
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} zango|seekmo|hotbar|hbtools [NC]
RewriteRule ^$ http://www.yourwarningpage.com/warning/index.html [R]
or instead of your own warning-page add this:
http://www.adwaresucks.com/zango/
The more sites that do this the better it is as hopefully the infected surfers will learn something.
--
The code has been posted in a number of places. This came from the webmaster at thunder-ball.net.

Not the answer all, but prolly helps some.

I've seen that code before... problem is it only catches a % of the Zango installs...

pussyluver · 10-09-2007, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poto

they sure did... seems to have died down now tho...

I've seen that code before... problem is it only catches a % of the Zango installs...

So very true. Some would argue that any limiting is good.

Will76 posted at GFY a reference to a ccBill conversation where ccBill attorneys are incontact with Zango and their sites (anything with their logo) will be exempt from Zango popup.

Didn't quote it. Waiting for something more specific from Jace or Ron of ccBill

poto · 10-09-2007, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver

So very true. Some would argue that any limiting is good.

Will76 posted at GFY a reference to a ccBill conversation where ccBill attorneys are incontact with Zango and their sites (anything with their logo) will be exempt from Zango popup.

Didn't quote it. Waiting for something more specific from Jace or Ron of ccBill

wow, if that's true lmk... I'll have to start sending more traffic to ccbill programs...

poto · 10-10-2007, 06:39 PM

got something official from epoch...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand

We would like to address the recent board posts about web traffic being improperly redirected. According to the posts, people are concerned that when a user clicks on a sign up page, a software program may cause a full-screen page for a different site to appear over the top of the intended sign up page. Once we saw these discussions, we immediately contacted Zango. Zango has assured us that it is investigating the situation and that it intends to get to the bottom of it.

Zango also told us that it has taken all appropriate steps to ensure that pop-up ads will not appear over Epoch and its affiliated websites. Furthermore, Zango has informed us that they have already disabled an advertiser that was the subject of board posts.

Epoch is committed to protecting the business of its customers. We are going to pursue all available legal remedies against anyone involved in any practice that improperly redirects web purchases intended for Epoch clients to other unintended sites. If you have any information about this matter, please contact us immediately.

-The Team at Epoch

link

good to hear they got whitelisted... now if we can just get all the rest of the adult industry whitelisted Zango won't be a problem anymore...

10-07-2007, 01:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
pussyluver member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 408	Using Zango (& other scum) to steal Ccbill join form traffic If you missed this from TOB, it's worth a quick read. http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=774597&page=1 The hijack of joins and traffic has been goin on for a long while, just seems to be getting totally out of control. There is no simple solution that I know of. Was working on twistys promotion when I took a break and dropped into GFY to see shaps rant. Guess not all that much of a coincidence.

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10-07-2007, 01:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
poto splogtastic Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,236	yep, Shap posted the same thread on JBM http://justblowme.com/showthread.php?t=80371 personally, I'd rather just read the one at JBM since that's where the program owners are... I thought Arlo's replies were very telling... I won't be promoting Quickbuck anytime soon... don't care if they do have pixel tracking... I know they have their own install base... there is more than one way to shave...

10-07-2007, 02:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
pussyluver member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 408	Looks like at least a handful will be off to their lawyers. The JBM version is a better read. Shorter too.

10-08-2007, 05:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
poto splogtastic Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,236	holy shit... the Zango drama on JBM just got kicked up a notch... well worth a read... hope they don't delete the threads... http://justblowme.com/showthread.php?t=80437 http://justblowme.com/showthread.php?t=80441

10-08-2007, 06:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
pussyluver member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 408	Things get a little heated over there fo sure. -- To reduce the number of infected surfers on your own site put this in your .htaccess: RewriteEngine On RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} zango\|seekmo\|hotbar\|hbtools [NC] RewriteRule ^$ http://www.yourwarningpage.com/warning/index.html [R] or instead of your own warning-page add this: http://www.adwaresucks.com/zango/ The more sites that do this the better it is as hopefully the infected surfers will learn something. -- The code has been posted in a number of places. This came from the webmaster at thunder-ball.net. Not the answer all, but prolly helps some.