wikipedia links still passing juice - BlackHatCrew

poto · 01-09-2008, 07:23 PM

I know wikipedia has the nofollow tag, but imho that's a bit overrated...

I've just within the last week been able to rank a new blog #2 in yahoo and #3 in google from one wikipedia link...

seriously folks, the proof is in the pudding... wikipedia links may not pass any PR, but who cares as long as they're still passing authority? really, that's all that matters...

it's interesting to note that in yahoo I was even able to bump a separate wikipedia page that was #2 for that keyword...

stma · 01-19-2008, 01:17 AM

I've seen the same thing. I don't care if it's a PR 0 at the end if I'm on page one

Easy pickings on some of the entertainment and music topics (or person) in wiki.

poto · 01-19-2008, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stma

I've seen the same thing. I don't care if it's a PR 0 at the end if I'm on page one

Easy pickings on some of the entertainment and music topics (or person) in wiki.

yep, it seems especially easy for some of the smaller more obscure niches...

nickycakes · 01-19-2008, 06:04 AM

eli called it a while ago
nofollow doesn't mean shit.

Roman · 01-20-2008, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickycakes

eli called it a while ago
nofollow doesn't mean shit.

I remember when that came out, but I thought there was news not too long after that saying it was done. I'm going to look this up...

Roman · 01-20-2008, 12:28 AM

I found this posted by Mark from Digerati Marketing:

"I would take a look at Jon’s Nofollow Experiment. While Nofollows certainly don’t pass link juice like followed links, Google does indeed “follow” them and see where they link too.

It is quite common for authorative sites to control external user linking with nofollow, but having this site link to you, maybe be enough of a tip for Google that your site is trusted.

As I mentioned in the post, the exercise is not about passing link equity, more trying to convince Google your site is trusted."

Conclusion: Get some wikipedia links!!

poto · 01-20-2008, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman

It is quite common for authorative sites to control external user linking with nofollow, but having this site link to you, maybe be enough of a tip for Google that your site is trusted.

As I mentioned in the post, the exercise is not about passing link equity, more trying to convince Google your site is trusted."

yep... that's the main point I was trying to make with this thread

I know others may have stated the same thing... but I was just making an observation based on my own independent spamming efforts...

SlightlyShadySEO · 01-20-2008, 09:03 PM

I know awhile ago there was a glitch in the no-follow algo that passed anchor text as well.
What does this tell us?
It was probably a relative hack job, and doesn't fit in perfectly with the algo code. It will be exploitable for a bit longer.

Red_Virus · 01-21-2008, 04:53 AM

Yahoo still picks them up

& Google also does even though Matt Cutt's says it does not.

01-09-2008, 07:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
poto splogtastic Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,410	wikipedia links still passing juice I know wikipedia has the nofollow tag, but imho that's a bit overrated... I've just within the last week been able to rank a new blog #2 in yahoo and #3 in google from one wikipedia link... seriously folks, the proof is in the pudding... wikipedia links may not pass any PR, but who cares as long as they're still passing authority? really, that's all that matters... it's interesting to note that in yahoo I was even able to bump a separate wikipedia page that was #2 for that keyword... __________________ My Ratios :: My Blacklist

01-19-2008, 01:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
stma member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 42	I've seen the same thing. I don't care if it's a PR 0 at the end if I'm on page one Easy pickings on some of the entertainment and music topics (or person) in wiki. __________________ Ed Charkow Black Hat - White Hat Black Hat Digest - 30 Day Plan

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nickycakes member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 16	eli called it a while ago nofollow doesn't mean shit. __________________ Reformed Blackhat irc.freenode.net #cakes

01-20-2008, 09:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
SlightlyShadySEO member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 15	I know awhile ago there was a glitch in the no-follow algo that passed anchor text as well. What does this tell us? It was probably a relative hack job, and doesn't fit in perfectly with the algo code. It will be exploitable for a bit longer. __________________ SlightlyShadySEO

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01-20-2008, 12:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
Roman member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 32	I found this posted by Mark from Digerati Marketing: "I would take a look at Jon’s Nofollow Experiment. While Nofollows certainly don’t pass link juice like followed links, Google does indeed “follow” them and see where they link too. It is quite common for authorative sites to control external user linking with nofollow, but having this site link to you, maybe be enough of a tip for Google that your site is trusted. As I mentioned in the post, the exercise is not about passing link equity, more trying to convince Google your site is trusted." Conclusion: Get some wikipedia links!!

01-21-2008, 04:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
Red_Virus member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2	Yahoo still picks them up & Google also does even though Matt Cutt's says it does not.