For mainstream, have you have tried newsletters for seo? - BlackHatCrew

matthecool · 01-12-2008, 06:27 PM

Was reading something very interesting in a book about newsletters.

you send them out to everyone, of course you wont get any power, but say those newsletters are published out in some type of directory or something similar, which often happens.

bingo

my copied tip of the day

poto · 01-13-2008, 03:13 AM

mailing and SEO don't go together...

you mail to get traffic...

imho, the only time you might get a boost in SE traffic from mailing is if you have some hot linkbait and you mail about it...

stma · 01-18-2008, 07:28 PM

Actually you can get some seo benefit from your newsletters. I send out several using aweber and the rss feed from my blog.

I post to the blog - and it also goes out to the mailing list. I grow my web content, have an archive for them to read past issues, etc.. SEO traffic signs up for the newsletter while reading the blog...

Nice cycle really.

Not sure how it would work for things related to webmaster stuff, but it works great for some of our reality tv sites.

poto · 01-18-2008, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stma

Actually you can get some seo benefit from your newsletters. I send out several using aweber and the rss feed from my blog.

I post to the blog - and it also goes out to the mailing list. I grow my web content, have an archive for them to read past issues, etc.. SEO traffic signs up for the newsletter while reading the blog...

Nice cycle really.

Not sure how it would work for things related to webmaster stuff, but it works great for some of our reality tv sites.

hmmm, that's interesting... will have to check out aweber...

the main issue I have with mailing is complaints... some people are starting to complain to domain registrars now, which I believe in some cases has resulted in domains being revoked...

it's pretty risky to mail any serious volume these days... botnets getting busted left and right... people doing time for spamming... some people even flag newsletters they're subscribed to as spam

stma · 01-18-2008, 08:19 PM

That's why I use aweber. A third party (aweber) deals with all of it - mail comes from aweber and you can even set it up to tell them when and where (and what IP) they subscribed from. I've got about 25k people on my aweber lists and I've never had a 'real' issue. Its only 30 or 40 bucks for that many people a month as well. First 10k is 19.99 I believe. Each additional 10k is 9.99 per month on top of that...

Not really a big deal at all.... because if you have 10k people you BETTER be making 19.99 a month mailing them

Pretty hard to say something is spam when it says:

You subscribed and agreed to receive this newsletter on xx date from IP address xx.xxx.xx.xx. Please use the following unsubscribe link if you no longer wish to receive mail from us.

poto · 01-18-2008, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stma

That's why I use aweber. A third party (aweber) deals with all of it - mail comes from aweber and you can even set it up to tell them when and where (and what IP) they subscribed from. I've got about 25k people on my aweber lists and I've never had a 'real' issue. Its only 30 or 40 bucks for that many people a month as well. First 10k is 19.99 I believe. Each additional 10k is 9.99 per month on top of that...

Not really a big deal at all.... because if you have 10k people you BETTER be making 19.99 a month mailing them

Pretty hard to say something is spam when it says:

You subscribed and agreed to receive this newsletter on xx date from IP address xx.xxx.xx.xx. Please use the following unsubscribe link if you no longer wish to receive mail from us.

yea, I've never used aweber before... checking them out now...

do you know if they're whitelisted?

just browsing through their terms and this caught my eye:

Quote:

Pornography and sex-related merchandising are prohibited on any AWeber Systems server.

which unfortunately means I can't use them for most of my sites including my largest and most profitable ones

stma · 01-18-2008, 08:31 PM

I get a pretty good delivery rate and they do keep on top of staying on the 'white list'. No clue about the adult stuff - maybe Getresponse.com?

I doubt many commercial newsletter services are going to let you do adult - but you could always implement your own opt in warning in your mailings if your doing it yourself. You will still get reported as spam (aol for sure), but at least you won't get sued

poto · 01-18-2008, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stma

I get a pretty good delivery rate and they do keep on top of staying on the 'white list'. No clue about the adult stuff - maybe Getresponse.com?

I doubt many commercial newsletter services are going to let you do adult - but you could always implement your own opt in warning in your mailings if your doing it yourself. You will still get reported as spam (aol for sure), but at least you won't get sued

nah, getresponse.com has similar terms...

Quote:

Furthermore, the Customer agrees that, as far as their business practices are concerned, they shall not stream, disclose, engage and/or offer to sell any goods or services that:

(c) associate any content streamed through the Service with pornography, adult related material, child pornography, bigotry, racism, hatred, profanity, mail fraud, or any material which may be insulting to another person or a company;

bighip still does adult I believe, but I hear their support people can be a bit difficult to get hold of at times... think zazamail does adult too... I know I've gotten adult related spam from zaza in the past :/

I've heard some people are banning AOL e-mails from signing up to newsletters and such... gotta figure anybody still using AOL probably isn't the brightest bulb to start with...

01-12-2008, 06:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
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stma member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 42	Actually you can get some seo benefit from your newsletters. I send out several using aweber and the rss feed from my blog. I post to the blog - and it also goes out to the mailing list. I grow my web content, have an archive for them to read past issues, etc.. SEO traffic signs up for the newsletter while reading the blog... Nice cycle really. Not sure how it would work for things related to webmaster stuff, but it works great for some of our reality tv sites. __________________ Ed Charkow Black Hat - White Hat Black Hat Digest - 30 Day Plan

01-18-2008, 08:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
stma member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 42	That's why I use aweber. A third party (aweber) deals with all of it - mail comes from aweber and you can even set it up to tell them when and where (and what IP) they subscribed from. I've got about 25k people on my aweber lists and I've never had a 'real' issue. Its only 30 or 40 bucks for that many people a month as well. First 10k is 19.99 I believe. Each additional 10k is 9.99 per month on top of that... Not really a big deal at all.... because if you have 10k people you BETTER be making 19.99 a month mailing them Pretty hard to say something is spam when it says: You subscribed and agreed to receive this newsletter on xx date from IP address xx.xxx.xx.xx. Please use the following unsubscribe link if you no longer wish to receive mail from us. __________________ Ed Charkow Black Hat - White Hat Black Hat Digest - 30 Day Plan

01-18-2008, 08:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
stma member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 42	I get a pretty good delivery rate and they do keep on top of staying on the 'white list'. No clue about the adult stuff - maybe Getresponse.com? I doubt many commercial newsletter services are going to let you do adult - but you could always implement your own opt in warning in your mailings if your doing it yourself. You will still get reported as spam (aol for sure), but at least you won't get sued __________________ Ed Charkow Black Hat - White Hat Black Hat Digest - 30 Day Plan

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